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Re: Epoxy over paint?

Postby oldsparkey » Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:39 pm

Look's like we have a lot more choices to chose from on how to finish a boat. A builder will have to make a decision on which boat to build ( something some folks have a problem with since you can only build one at a time ) and then on which way to finish it when completed.
Just remember that the best way is the way you wanted to do it. :D

Personally I will stay with the epoxy and then some varnish for above the water line since I like the color of the wood.
The bottom for protection is either the Teflon paint or the graphite and epoxy. It all depends on how I am thinking of finishing the boat and what is the best direction (choice) for me to complete the boat.
Needless to say I do not bang or bump the boats around but tend to be more careful with them then the average bear. :wink:
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Re: Epoxy over paint?

Postby tx river rat » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:28 pm

I have my own ideals that work for me .
But I think all will work.
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Re: Epoxy over paint?

Postby oldsparkey » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:02 pm

tx river rat wrote:
As long as it pleases you and floa :D ts ,you did good.


That is the ultimate goal with each boat that is built.
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Re: Epoxy over paint?

Postby beekeeper » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:42 pm

Some more points about this "test".
Original purpose was to find a "harder" (more scratch resistant) finish that was better than paint over dried epoxy. The second part came from questions about UV damage.
Wet paint and wet epoxy will mix, and may offer a better finish than paint over dry epoxy, varnish only, or just paint.
Mixing paint into the epoxy would require more experimenting to find a workable mix. A little paint made it thick, and it seemed to set fast.
Scratches in paint over wet epoxy did not show as much as in other combinations. I think because it was not as shiny. It weather checked more than epoxy over paint.
None of the test pieces were painted or epoxy coated with any care or attention towards a level finish. The boards with the epoxy top coat have a smooth (slippery) feel. If the wood and the paint are smooth the top coat will also be smooth.
I am not making any boasts or claims about any of this. It is probably worth just about what you paid for it. I was surprised the two mixed and bonded, and pleased they weathered as well as they did.
If the wood is worthy, epoxy and varnish it for a long lasting beautiful finish. If not so nice wood, paint and then top coat it with epoxy and varnish for a smooth,nice looking and long lasting finish.
A high grade of marine paint may work as well or better for about the same cost. I don't know. :wink: Somebody should paint some boards and let us know in a couple of years. That is a long time, but what is time to a board. :D

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Re: Epoxy over paint?

Postby Kayak Jack » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:17 pm

beekeeper wrote:<SNIP> ...and let us know in a couple of years. That is a long time, but what is time to a board. :D
In two years, it gets bored.
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Re: Epoxy over paint?

Postby tx river rat » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:29 am

Dont have to wait on the paint over epoxy I have several boats that are that way and have lived outside all there life no problem at all.
Have a couple that are paint over poly that are doing just fine also , all were built with luan.
The ones that have been repaired with epoxy over paint didnt hold up well.
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Re: Epoxy over paint?

Postby tx river rat » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:04 pm

I need to add this was all with rustolem satin finish black paint and us composite 2 to 1 epoxy
The type paint,and epoxy could have a bearing on the results.
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