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piper dont vote for the average guy. later keith

the boats I build, the greatest stress is on the ends ( more bend). later keith

I see a happy man. May we all find peace on the water. later keith

in a 4 letter word "OIL". later keith

it takes us about 5 days to put in the 20 to 25 hours to make the build. you can also see how much more room you will have in a pirogue / skiff if you put the transom in before you bend the stern and put the stem in and cut it off. later keith

that is one nice looking transom on that pirogue :lol: :lol: , later keith

i fit right in with my friend, i was raised on pine knots and say keep it simple.later keith

use hardwood, as per ash. later keith

i have no pee left in me piper, you win tonight. i come back with photo to show youm maybe you drink then. later lil keith

the width of the transom is also holding the floor, that is what you need, something to float 200 pounds in the back of the boat, not a 10 pound motor. I can tell you how to get to the water but cant make you drink it. later keith

you need width on the bottom in the back to hold your weight up. if your beam bottom is say 24 inches, make your transom botton about 20 or 22 inches and cut the transom sides at the angle you want the boat sides to be, say something around 20 degrees. try to give that UJ some shape. later Keith

no, it is harder to make a pointed end than a transom end. if you do the pointed thing first, you lose a lot of float and you have lost a lot of time. later keith

mick, put her seat up off the floor, its wider. that 24 " bottom come from that smart guy who invented plywood in 4 X 14 ft. sheets. when making a pirogue, you cut the sides out of the outside and the piece left in the middle was for the bottom, 24 or 26 inches depending on how good you could...

ya, how can i help you if you dont show no picture. now tick can ciffer all that stuff. i got to see it. you better be fast, the water, she be rising. later keith

I believe in good tool and good material. I dont try to sell on here, so my horse ant running in this race. later keith

ha ozark to place my ribs (now dont tell anybody) I take my total length (say 12 feet or 144inches), subtract the stem cutbacks (say 12 inches on each end = 24inches, 144inches - 24 inches = 120 inches) then decide how many ribs i want ( say 5, I'll add 1 which makes 6 and divide that into 120...

Here are some pictures of some jiggs for different size boats with different angles.

you need to keep the bottom of the pirogue close to 24 inches and open the top to about 36 inches. that is why you need a jig or two in the center. I make the jig out of plywood (3/4) with a 1-1/2 inch (1/2 of a 2x4). take a scrap plywood and mark a 20 inch bottom, then draw 36 degree sides...

BY THE GRACE, with love. keith

cheap wood dont bend very good. just look around. the old saying are true, you get what you pay for, theres no perfect wood or boat, cheap and pretty dont go together, the list goes on. try to get the best you can for your bucks. later keith