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'Pellets 101'

Tom @ Buzzard Bluff

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A friend wrote today with the following question:

<Does you remember how the RWS 14 Grain Meisterkugeln Match Flat Nose pellets shoot? They are about $5.00 cheaper per 500 than the Crosman Premiers in the 22 caliber. That's from MidwayUSA. >

Since I'm lazy and like to recycle such things I thought my answer might serve others here on this board. Tom @ Buzzard Bluff
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The Meisterkugeln have always shot very well for me in almost everything. They were once thought of as the 'standard' for match use but have generally been relegated to 'practice' shooting where their performance is entirely adequate while matches at the very top level are shot with far more highly precise (and higher priced!) fodder. Another very good pellet is 'Hobby' located a few steps further down on the Midway RWS pellet page for $2 less per tin.

<http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=12&categoryId=10534&categoryString=10634***>

As the name implies they are intended for the hobby shooter or for practice for the match shooter on a tight budget. They are also considerably lighter and produce higher velocities if that is a consideration. I have always been very satisfied with their accuracy in most guns. The only downside if it truly is one is the relative tenderness of the thin skirt. Care should be practiced in handling, storage and loading to preclude damaging the skirt simply because damaged skirts produce bad accuracy. I have found them to perform well on small game inside of 25 yards. In fact better than most others in moderately powered guns because the thin skirts allow them to obturate quickly, reducing energy loss through pressure bypassing the pellet and expanding moderately at the terminal velocities produced by traditional domestic multi-pump pnuematics and CO2 rifles and pistols.

The translation from the German 'Meisterkugeln' to English is 'master balls' so you may well feel more masculine shooting Master Balls than Hobbys. :-D

The 13.9 grain .22 caliber Superdome near the bottom of the page was a standard for airgun hunting for many years. The advent of the Premier affected it's sales just as it did many others but I've always thought it a better hunting pellet than the Premier since it is made from soft lead and does have some expansion on game in mid power airguns unlike the much harder Crosman Premier formulation which requires much higher energy levels to usefully expand. They have proven almost universally accurate for me in everything except some very picky springers and some of them have liked it to the exclusion of others as well. Most pnuematics and CO2 guns are far less picky about their diet than springers although they too can register approval for some pellets above others. So long as you avoid 'gimmick' pellets promising higher velocity, greater deadliness and other such claims as well as pointed pellets and stick to traditionally shaped all-lead pellets resembling a Badminton shuttlecock you should be well served by what you buy. Sticking to high quality round-nose domed pellets or flat-nosed 'wadcutter' target pellets made by specialists such as RWS, H&N, Ely, Beeman (most are produced for them by H&N) or Crosman will keep you 'in the zone'. Spanish, Pacific Rim and a lot of English pellets are made to sell---not use.
 

Tom @ Buzzard Bluff

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Aug 25, 2003
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Ozarks of N. Central Arkansas
More correspondance----

----with the same buddy as in the post above with a mutual friend stepping in to comment. Much like myself he has had a lot of experience hunting with airguns.
Hope someone is getting some value from this! Tom
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The 'newbie' wrote:
I ordered some 177 Crosman Premer pellets but I guess I hit the wrong button on the site. I ordered Premier hollow points instead of the flat nose match pellets. Oh well, maybe I'll get a 177 that's powerful enough to hunt with someday.

To which mutual friend responded:

IMHO there's no such thing as a good .177 hunting air rifle. At any given power, .22 is a much better killer.--- I've killed hundreds of squirrels with .177, .20, and .22. There simply is no comparison. A powerful .177 shoots flat and is a bit easier to hit with but a .22, even at modest power (like the old Benjamin or Crosman multi stroke guns), swats them with authority. That old Crosman 180 you have would make a fine squirrel killer.

And I added my 2 cents:

A 10-12 ft/# .22 pellet gun is poison on squirrels. Sometimes I almost feel like it does a better job than a rimfire. Maybe subconciously I just don't concentrate as much on shot placement with all the 'excess energy' the rimfire has. I feel fairly confident tho in stating that I've lost more squirrels to escaping to a hole with rimfires than with airguns. But I've never hunted squirrels with any airgun except .22 and to a limited extent .20 after a few bitter experiences with the much touted .177. Frankly I could tell no difference in how long it took them to be dead between 22 & 20. But with a good double lung hit with a fast moving .177 they too often had enough steam left to make it to a hole before I could finish them off with a follow-up shot.

Had an incident last year that may be a textbook example of the difference between .177 and a 'real' hunting caliber. Middle of the afternoon, about to lay down for a nap. I stepped into the utility room to pull the shade. I saw something moving in the grille opening of the van which I'd left parked in front of the shop door. It was a gray squirrel. Having visions of him eating electrical wires I grabbed an old Diana M-27 in .177 I'd just recently resighted. By the time I stepped out on the deck the squirrel had settled down, laying on his belly in complete comfort. If he'd just have panicked and fled I'd have let him go but I wasn't about to lay down with him taking a break in my grille 20 yds or so from the deck. I took a good rest against a post and planted a Premire directly between his eyes with him facing me. He collapsed and slowly 'trickled' out of the grille and onto the gravel. Problem solved---I'll dispose of him after my nap. About two hours later I went out to get rid of the evidence. As far as I could tell he hadn't moved but out of habit I gave him a nudge with my foot. (you've only got to pick up one injured but very undead squirrel to develope the habit!) Sure enough that sucker wasn't dead! Perfect shot placement with him facing me square on. A little blood and brain matter trickling from the entry wound (NO exit wound!) but he was still able to move. Finally executed the coup de gras with another pellet to the back of the skull. Now true the gun was only about a 7 ft/# gun but that squirrel should have been dead! Had it been an old Crosman or Benjamin in 22 or a Sheridan 20 he woulda been too! I think the difference is how much trauma the different calibers transmit. With a .177 you just don't hear that SMACK! imparted by the bigger pellet even from a medium powered Benji, Crosman or Sheridan. I've shot a LOT more Fox squirrels than grays with pellet guns and don't recall very many shots that passed all the way thru and out the other side. But almost always I could feel the pellet just under the skin on the side opposite the entry. I consider that as a sign that it imparted every ounce of energy it was carrying into the squirrel. A high powered .177 by contrast will pass all the way thru a gray squirrel. Any remaining energy after it leaves the squirrel is simply wasted insofar as killing the squirrel. Oh the squirrel will die---no doubt about that, but it's quite likely he won't be in your gamebag at the end of the hunt. And that isn't in accord with my hunting ethic.
That old 180 would be BAD medicine in the squirrel woods!
 

bearridge

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Keep it up.....someday the unborn may benefit from this. You and I have spent far too many hours reading boat science. Eazy ta pass off when ya dont know shit frum Shinola.