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A thread for my many questions

Ozark

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OK here's the first one. Ive been reading the back pages and hear of glass bubbles in the fillet. What are these and what mix ratio?
 

oldsparkey

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They are microscopic glass bubbles , they are used as a filler like you do with wood flour but they make the fillet a lot lighter in color.

I like to use some with the wood flour to lighten it as an accent over the seams , the amount you would want to use is strickley a personal choice.

The mix ratio is 100% to 0 % depending on what you want to do and what color or shade you want the fillet. They also make sanding the fillet a lot easier then using 100% wood flour.

Chuck.
 

Ozark

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I was just over to Raka anyone used these Phenolic micro balloon? Useing the Hickory plywood and plan a light cherry stain I like the color of a reddish fillet.
 

Ozark

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I probably didn't read far enough at the Raka site. I'd say Pine wood flour with a little pigment to color. Sound right guys?
 

hairymick

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Red Cedar wood flour will give a real dark red fillet. you could try mixinf 1/2 cedar & 1/2 pine.

I don't care about the colour of my fillets so I just use whatever I have handy.
 

hairymick

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Mate, I collect mine from my shop from when I play with AWR (Australian Western Red Cedar)

Would your quarantine laws allow me to post some to you?

If not, I believe California Redwood is very similar. - beautiful stuff. Any of the commercial joinery, furniture or cabinet making shops should have heaps. You might need to strain it to get the bigger lumps out.
 

hairymick

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Mate, I think any fine wood sanding dust will do the job. Just what-ever colour you like. The Epoxy will stain it much darker than the bare timber,

I collect bags of it from my work, but most of it is an indonesian sub species of WRC - sirian. it goes very dark when mixed with empoxy and will stain bare ply badly. I try to protect my ply as much as I can with masking tape and a pre coat of clear epoxy before I start to stitch.

My first S&G build, a swampgirl turned out with dark brown/redish stains all over the ply from the stuff. It was a horrible mess.
 

oldsparkey

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When I cut the strips to make the pirogue from the California Redwood I saved the sawdust. Sifted it later to get any chunks out of it.

Then when using the sander I saved the dust from the collection bag and off of me for fillet material.

It has a maroon / purple shade to it when mixed with epoxy , a color I really enjoyed using. Looked almost like some good grade dark wine. :lol:

Chuck.
 

swamprat

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This is what Chucks redwood sawdust looks like
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Thanks again Chuck! :D
 

Ozark

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I think some experimenting on some scrapes of this plywood are inorder so as I can decide for myself. I'm not though looking so hold tight.