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Prostate Exam importance

dawallace45

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A good mate of mine has been going through Prostate cancer and for some time didn't tell any one except a few close friends ,he has recently started to talk about it openly in the hope it will encourage men to get the examination , I'd like you to read the following email he wrote to every one he knows , he has given permission to pass it on freely , since the age group of the forum is the danger zone I thought it a good place to post it , mates name is Mick

David

Hi
I have prostate cancer and need to pass on an important message -

If you are male and over 40 or have a loved one in this age group, I hope you take the time to read this message to learn from my experience. It may save the life of a Brother, Father or Son.

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in September 2009 and had surgery (radical prostatectomy) 8 weeks later. Almost a year has passed, some cancer is still in me and I'm battling on. I will soon start radiation therapy.

I went to the doctor for a routine checkup in June 2009 and simply asked for blood tests to include a PSA check (prostate cancer blood test). The GP was reluctant to order the PSA test as he didn't consider it necessary. I insisted, because I had seen an interview on TV regarding prostate cancer, and thought I should have it checked.

The doctor contacted me a few days later and asked me to come in to discuss the test results. My heart skipped a beat. The PSA level was high but the doctor told me not to worry, as only 1 in 1000 men in my age group (40-50) get prostate cancer.

I was not considered to be in a high risk category. There is no history of prostate cancer in my family, nor did I have any symptoms, but, the PSA test result came back above the normal range. I was treated for a month for suspected prostatitis (prostate infection) - a process of elimination of another cause of an elevated PSA level. Unfortunately my PSA level continued to rise.

I was later referred to a urologist and had a biopsy within a week of that appointment. Two days after the biopsy the urologist called me at home on a Friday night, and said that I had prostate cancer. He spoke for about five minutes but I can't remember anything he said other than, "Sorry but you have prostate cancer". I was stunned; the whole world was spinning, Would I die? What about the kids? I thought I was prepared to hear a result either way, but I was shell shocked. I cried, the world had instantly changed for me.

The future I had imagined was thrown into doubt. Would I see my kids grow up and start their own families? Would I hold my Grandchildren one day? Would I reach retirement age and travel the world?

I was in the urologist's office on the following Monday morning to discuss my options. More (staging) tests followed; CT scans and bone scans to see if the cancer had spread. The radiologist who did the bone scan said "Wow, 45, you're a bit too young to be seeing me!". I heard that a lot. People consider prostate cancer to be an old man's disease, but it isn't.

I didn't sleep or eat well for weeks. Waiting for ongoing test results and specialist appointments seemed to take forever. I couldn't concentrate at work. I only told a few close friends. I read everything I could find on the Internet relating to prostate cancer while constantly worrying. I made a new will & EPOA. It was emotionally draining. I used to lie awake at night staring at the ceiling worrying about the future... 'The kids are still at school. (Nick 14 & Steffy 13). What if I don't get through this?'

I had robotic surgery to remove the prostate gland in November 09. Four days later the surgeon came to see me with a histology report (pathology report from the operation). He believed that they had got it all. The prostate gland had been removed and there was no sign of cancer in the surrounding tissue. I was expected to be OK. It was over. I sobbed for half an hour. Thank God it was over.

I took six weeks leave from work to convalesce. The physical recovery was painful and the subsequent incontinence & impotence very distressing. My body will never be the same. I felt humbled by the generosity and support I received from my family & friends. It's something I will never forget. My son Nick and I have a very special bond. He helped nurse his Dad; made my lunch everyday before making his own for school. He has grown up too quickly and understands his risk of cancer. I'm worried for him.

In February 2010 I went back to the Urologist for a checkup, expecting to be given the "All Clear". Something was wrong, the PSA was detectable. It has been bouncing up and down since, indicating that there is still cancer there somewhere. "Oh no, not again". Emotionally I hit rock bottom and have been receiving treatment for depression. I recently met with a radiation oncologist to plan 6 1/2 weeks of salvage radiation therapy. I should have had that first PSA test sooner.

I guess you get the message, I have suffered and wouldn't want anyone to go down this road. Sadly, the people I love have also shared the grief. It could happen to anyone, but IT CAN BE AVOIDED. If I had been having regular PSA tests since age 40 I would probably be OK now. My partner & kids shouldn't be worrying about my next test result and further treatment, they should be enjoying life. I often feel guilty that I have caused them grief that could have been avoided, had I been more diligent with my health checks.

Sadly, many men die unnecessarily because they're not aware of the risks, or are put off by the idea of a digital rectal examination. Yeah, It's undignified and a bit uncomfortable, but it can save your life. Men are often too proud to consider health checks, or put health on the back burner as a low priority. Generally women seem to have breast screening and pap smears as a normal routine. Why don't men consider regular prostate tests?

Before my cancer diagnosis, I hadn't had a physical prostate exam for over two years because I didn't like the previous experience with Dr Banana fingers up the street. I should not have put it off. Now I don't care how often I get poked or prodded or drained of blood. It's better than dying.

Up until the day of my surgery I did not have symptoms that would have prompted me to see a doctor. No doubt if I hadn't volunteered for the checkup I might be in a much worse situation by now. Obviously if you're feeling OK it doesn't mean that you are OK.

I kept details of my health problem to a small group of family and friends. I felt it was very personal and embarrassing, but now I know it's nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not looking for sympathy. I'm sharing my story because I want others to learn from my experience. I'm hoping that this email will prompt more men to check their health.

Some positives have come from my prostate journey. My perspective on life is different. I appreciate the good things. I hold the kids a lot closer and listen to them when they want to talk. I'm never too busy for them. Problems at work are not so important. I have met some wonderful people in the medical profession and made friends through the Brisbane prostate cancer support group, who feel like family.

If one person reads this message and makes an appointment for a health check then that's another positive. (Have a cardiac & diabetes check too). The PSA test is inconclusive so it's best to have both the blood test and rectal exam. A physical examination can detect a tumor in >15% of cases where the patient doesn't have an elevated PSA.


The information available from the Prostate Cancer Foundation of Australia and Beyond Blue were of great value to me, but it all costs money. Cancer research institutions need ongoing funding. I worry about my Son Nick as his chance of getting prostate cancer has doubled. I'm hopeful that there will be rapid advances in detection and treatment technologies so my Son and other men don't have to follow me on the prostate cancer journey.
Breast Cancer receives a lot of publicity but prostate cancer doesn't have the same public profile. Each year in Australia, close to 3300 men die of prostate cancer - almost equal to the number of women who die from breast cancer. Sadly, 20 000 Australian men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer this year.

Prostate cancer doesn't discriminate. It can happen to anyone. I'm just an average guy. A family man who goes to work at the office each day and also enjoys hobbies like anyone else. I'm sharing my story in the hope that others will relate to it and realise the importance of health checks. I sent an email similar to this to my close friends some time ago and several were prompted to have their prostates checked. One has just commenced treatment for prostate disease and another has just finished radiotherapy. It made a difference, so I'm sharing my story with the wider community.

Guys, the key message here is to have a prostate checkup. Not just for your sake, but for the sake of your family and friends who could potentially suffer with you later because you weren't proactive. Early detection is the key to a good recovery. If detected and treated early, prostate cancer can be cured. If the cancer spreads outside the prostate capsule, the outlook is not so good. There is no cure, just treatment to slow it down and manage the symptoms.

Boys, pick up the phone and make a doctor's appointment NOW.
Girls, make sure he does it or make the appointment for him. Don't put it off.

Mick
 

Kayak Jack

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What I've heard is that if a man lives long enough, he will get prostate cancer. If a woman lives long enough she will get breast cancer. It doesn't seem to be caused from drinking milk, one of the popular theories currently in fashion. It seems to be caused by living.
 

JEM

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Prostate cancer run in my family. My dad had surgery about 10 years ago and came out just fine with everything "in tact". My grandfather had it too but had to endure a more radical surgery simply because of medicine was not as advanced when he had it.

I'm going to be taking my first PSA blood test in a few weeks. In my mind, I try and tell myself that I may have to accept that I'm likely to get it. But with modern medicine, they should be able to catch it when the issue is minor. I'm no fan of needles but a simple blood test is all you need to avoid more radical future treatment.
 

a Bald Cypress

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Not only prostate but all other types. GET A YEARLY CHECKUP.

We were just notified that my brother in law has passed. He was diagnosed with bladder cancer less than three months ago. It had to have been VERY AGGRESSIVE. We will miss him. We were just up to see him one month ago and he was very positive about remission. Now he is gone but the memories remain.

EVERYONE GET THAT CHECKUP.
 

dawallace45

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For some weeks before Micks last PSA test he's been getting serious about his diet and taking stuff like Pomegranate juice and Colloidal silver , his last PSA test dropped to about half what it was , I think it's now about 7, his oncologist is now holding off on the radiation for 6 to 7 weeks to see if there is another drop , oncologist reckons that the radiation will increase his chances of survival to 10% , not by 10% , just up to 10% , not great odds so Mick has started using the Beck protocol , in the hope that it will help get his PSA down or at least get his general health to a stage to tolerate the radiation better

David

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ThatsAPaddlin

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Many apologies for the late response, but this conversation was just too interesting to pass up. My father was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer, so I can say with 100% sincerity that EARLY examinations are SO, SO, SO important. By detecting your cancer early, your chances of survival are so much greater. while my father hasn't reached the stage where he's in critical condition, he's not in the beginning stages, so it has become a little more difficult to treat.

Prostate cancer is really tricky because it's essentially inside of you and many people try to avoid operating because of this. Finding A cancer treament isn't exactly difficult, but finding the right one for you may take a little time. Having just discovered his cancer, my father is fastidiously looking for the right treatment for him. After spending most of tonight researching online, I found that proton therapy is apparently a more FOCUSED, less invasive treatment for certain types of cancers -- prostate cancer being one of them. Does anyone know anything about this?
 

dawallace45

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Mate Mick was on the Beck protocol for just over a month and his PSA dropped dramatically down to less than half it had been and he decided to take a break from it over Christmas as he reckoned that it would be hard going through Christmas with out things like alcohol and coffee and the sweet sugary foods associated with it , at this time he was on monthly PSA tests and on his next test it was going up again , so he went back on the Beck Protocol even more seriously than before and now his PSA is down to almost nothing on his last test and he feels better than he has ever in his life .

Note : On his last test it was extremely low but still registering but that is still better than any hope that the doctors had given him , his specialist told him that they were planing a rather severe radiation therapy as the cancer was right through his body and they had thought long and hard if it was even worth while considering him for radiation but given his age they reckoned that it was worth giving it a try , they reckoned that having the radiation would raise his chances of surviving the next five years to 10% , yes that is to 10% , not by 10% , they told him his condition was terminal and the radiation would at least give him a chance of seeing his children grow to a age to be able to take care of them selves , they also told him the radiation would be so severe that he wouldn't be able to continue working and would need a full time carer ,

Taking the decision to go with a alternative therapy isn't a decision every one is going to make but given the lack of choices Mick had he reckons he went with the right one for him when he said no to radiation and went with the Beck , he has taken total control of his own health and besides the fact that he feels great the beck is extremely cheap compared to the doctors even with his high level of health insurance , he's still paying off the loan he took out for the Prostate removal [ he was $25000 out of pocket ] ,

His Specialist is just blown away with his PSA dropping like it has and reckons he's never seen any thing like it , Mick has never told the Specialist he's on the Beck Protocol as early on he asked about alternative therapy's and the specialist went ape shit

David
 

dawallace45

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Just thought some one may be interested , just got word from my mate Mick in Brisbane , his PSA is down to 0.03 ug/L , late last year his PSA was 0.19 ug/L and climbing , they told him he was terminal ,

A side effect of his Beck treatment is that he feels better than he ever has in the last 15 years and hasn't had a cold of flu in all that time even through one of the most dreadful cold and flu seasons we had for some time and also after getting the Prostate out two years ago he was told that he would never be able to achieve erection with out the help of some thing like Viagra ever again , he has now given them away and doesn't need them any more

David
 

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dawallace45 said:
Looks like Chuck has some sort of Nanny program on here , it changed Viag#a to Spammer , doesn't make much sense like that

David

Use to have a lot of spammers signing on to sell there Vir-aga so I made it for that word to automatically come out as spammer.
Lately all I have been doing is killing spammers , they want to post things , I will delete them. It's the old .....Play nice or play someplace else.