Transom pirouge

[Muddybutt]

I have a cypress strip lumber river boat
Considering building a pirouge that I can use same set up of troll motor w pedal cable steer system so I can take a 3 year old on board as strip is a one man
Thoughts on length ,stability ,transom ,pedal steer set up and putting in live well like my strip boat

 

[oldbuffpilot]

Here is a link to a transom pirogue I recently built. very stable and light weight. JEM Watercraft has the plans, "Crawdad" https://www.southernpaddler.com/community/threads/two-new-builds-tv-12-32-and-crawdad-11-34.10289/
Andy

 

[beekeeper]

If stability and electric power are your goals, a john boat or skiff design may be better than a pirogue modified with a transom. I think a design similar to the Ogeechee River boat like the one I just built would work well.
If you are set on the pirogue shape consider something similar to these commercial elec, pirogues.
https://www.louisianasportsman.com/...sifieds&event=view&action=single_ad&id=710595
http://watermoccasin.net/water-moccasin/

beekeeper

 

[texastom]

Chuck built a JEM Swampgirl with a transom. It's here somewhere as well as the JEM site. Not exactly a pirogue, but seems to fit the mission other than rigging a rudder on the smallish transom along with the trolling motor.

 

[oldsparkey]

Chuck built a JEM Swampgirl with a transom. It's here somewhere as well as the JEM site. Not exactly a pirogue, but seems to fit the mission other than rigging a rudder on the smallish transom along with the trolling motor.
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Another picture of it.....

It's wider then a pirogue and offers a lot more stability.

Chuck.

 

[Muddybutt]

Ordered crawdad plans
So I weigh 260 and plan to add a 12 v battery and attach a pedal controlled troll motor to transom (keeps my hands free while I fish) now add 2 rods and a cricket cage plus the occasional 3 year old in front am I still good w weight and stability

 

[oldsparkey]

Ordered crawdad plans
So I weigh 260 and plan to add a 12 v battery and attach a pedal controlled troll motor to transom (keeps my hands free while I fish) now add 2 rods and a cricket cage plus the occasional 3 year old in front am I still good w weight and stability

It is nice to see someone on here deciding to build a boat.............

I think you will be more then happy with your choice during the build and especially after then when you are fishing out of it.
I like to suggest to everyone before they start a build that they have already made the hardest decision by deciding which boat to build. That being said then do your self and the boat a favor...... Study the plans and understand each step a couple of steps ahead before you make the 1st cut. Then measure and remeasure everything before making a cut.

I speak of experience on that ... I wasted a couple of sheets of plywood by not doing that very thing. On the flip side .. You will make some mistakes but the beauty of it is that you will be the only one to realize that if you don't tell anyone about them.

If there are any questions then feel free to ask and I'm sure there will be some answers for you to chose from.

Chuck.

 

[Muddybutt]

 

[Muddybutt]

These are my cypress strip lumber river boats

 

[beekeeper]

As usual I'm confused. What are the dimensions, capacity, etc. of the "lumber river boats"?
Why will a pirogue design be better? Two people, battery, troll motor, steering, tackle, and other gear may become crowded (if not over the safe capacity) in a 11' pirogue. Just asking. Not saying your choice is wrong.

beekeeper

 

[oldbuffpilot]

Welcome to the forum, looks like you have the experience and skills to add to the knowledge base. I see you use the same
Walmart seat I've found to be good. I've had the plans for Chucks fine seat for several years, but it's just too easy to use the Walmart seat. The main thing I like about the Crawdad is the light weight and ease of carrying in my short bed truck. It certainly is stable.
Good Fish'n
Andy

 

[texastom]

Neat boats Muddybutt. When you get the chance, would you mind posting a pic of the rudder setup. It seems you already know how to work around the trolling motor shaft.

 

[Muddybutt]

Will do
Has anyone ever seen the way they epoxy the camouflage cloth in after fiberglass these are the only boats I have seen it done

 

[Kayak Jack]

Tom, another source of information on rudder pedal mounting, cable routing, and rudder blade design and positioning may be available on www.krugercanoes.com.

 

[Muddybutt]

Hard to shrink pics for forum but no rudder pedals have cables through a tube that have clasp like a dog leash that hook to troll motor and turns motor
Speed and reverse controlled by reostat hooked by Velcro to side of boats

 

[Muddybutt]

 

[Muddybutt]

These are the boats pic 1 camo is 10 ft 8 inch
Short one is 10 ft

Pic 2 shows clasp I just hook them to drain plug when motor detached
Pic 3 shows pedals and cable hinges epoxy to floors as well as live well

 

[texastom]

Thanks for the pics, that makes sense now, and is simple in the good way. Somehow I was hung up on needing a rudder to go with rudder pedals. Both of your boats look perfectly suited for their job. Nice work on them.

CLC Boats has some construction pics of SUPs with fabric, but it's under the glass. That may give you an idea for the next one. Blue "Construction Gallery" link has several pics: http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/surf_boats/sup/kaholo-stand-up-paddleboard.html

 

[oldbuffpilot]

Thanks for posting that fabric trick. I've a Grandson just starting a stripped pirogue. I've been wondering how we were going to get the Marine seal on it.