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When the Shoreline or Bank is 20 yds wide.

Discussion in 'Canoeing' started by Kayak Jack, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. Kayak Jack

    Kayak Jack Well-Known Member

    Where are you paddling? Come along with me on some Michigan rivers sometime.
     
  2. tx river rat

    tx river rat Well-Known Member

    Nope
    That mud will stick a boat right inplace.
    Ron
     
  3. oldsparkey

    oldsparkey Well-Known Member

    Here in good old Florida if the mud has a thin layer of water over it you can get threw it with some work. One way is to use a push pole or canoe paddle if neither are handy there is way #2.
    #2 ... Providing you have an anchor , take and toss it ahead of the boat and then pull on the anchor line to make a little headway. For some reason the anchor will come back about half the way it was tossed. Don't worry about staying clean because there is no way you will manage that.

    I have found that a flat bottom boat ( Pirogue ) is the easiest to travel threw mud with since it is a shallower draft then a canoe or kayak.
    One area I like to fish with the pirogue has a border of cattails that are about 60m yards thick at the end of a small canal. I grab a handful of them and pull the boat threw them till I get to the open water to fish it. It is a good sized lake and no one fishes it because it is imposable for the normal boats to get to it. Some great fishing.

    With Ron and the guy's on the Brazos ( Texas ) the easiest way to get threw the mud was to walk out threw the mud to the area where the water was over the mud. Then get in the canoe and paddle off down river.
    The canoe is sitting in the mud and had to be pushed out a few more yards to a sandy ( less mud ) bottom. The deepest mud was from the bank to the water. :roll:
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  4. seedtick

    seedtick Well-Known Member

    flat bottom, hard chine is what you need

    the Chitimachi Idians down in the marsh would build pirogues with a slight side to side bottom curvature to allow their pirogue to break the vaccum
     
  5. ezwater

    ezwater Well-Known Member

    I got onto Bayou Sauvage at too low a level because I didn't know the gauge. I didn't have mud trouble getting on or off, because the landing area off US 90 is kept deeper by the stirring of users. But when I got out in the marsh, the bottom of my whitewater canoe dragged badly, and I couldn't get a decent stroke. Back to the boat ramp!

    My usual procedure getting over mud flats is to get mud all over my feet, get my butt in the boat, and try to rinse the mud off my feet by sloshing them over the sides.

    On Michigan, I'll be up in the Benton Harbor area for a family reunion in July. It's looked like lower Michigan has not been having the terrible drought we're suffering in the SE, so I'll take a canoe to the reunion and see what I can find. I once did the Galien River from Warren Woods to Lake Michigan, but last I looked, the Galien was full of trees again.
     
  6. oldsparkey

    oldsparkey Well-Known Member

    If your white water canoe is a typical one , the reason it hit bottom might be due to the amount of rocker in it. Some white water canoes have a lot of rocker in them.
     
  7. ezwater

    ezwater Well-Known Member

    Well, Sparkey, you're right. By contrast, recently we tandemed the Coldwater in the Florida Panhandle at a rather low level, but I was smart enough not to use the whitewater tandem. Instead we used our 16' 8" Bluewater tandem, which turned out to be just perfect for snaking down sandbars barely covered with water. The Bluewater Chippewa is even more rare than their other models, not even offered in their current catalog. But it has a very, very shallow arch center, with lifted ends, so that it flies over marginally thin water, and steers easily.

    Sometimes I could not believe my eyes when we floated clean over the damp sand......... :shock:
     
  8. hairymick01

    hairymick01 Well-Known Member

    Here, we get our feet dirty. :D
     
  9. Kayak Jack

    Kayak Jack Well-Known Member

    That's OK in Aussie land, Mick. You've got crocks there to lick the mud off your feet. :wink: We have to scuff our feet around to get'em clean in the US.
     

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