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MEXICO IS ANGRY!

oldsparkey

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I received this in a email from a person overseas and not in this country... That seams to be where the truth is about all that is going on over here.

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MEXICO IS ANGRY!

Three cheers for Arizona

The shoe is on the other foot and Mexicans from the State of Sonora,
Mexico don't like it.

The State of Sonora is angry at the influx of Mexicans into Mexico . Nine
state legislators from the Mexican State of Sonora traveled to Tucson to
complain about Arizona ’s new employer crackdown on illegals from Mexico .

It seems that many Mexican illegals are returning to their hometowns and the
officials in the Sonora state government are ticked off. A delegation of
nine state legislators from Sonora was in Tucson on Tuesday to state that
Arizona ’s new Employer Sanctions Law will have a devastating effect on the
Mexican state.

At a news conference, the legislators said that Sonora -- Arizona 's southern
neighbor, made up of mostly small towns--cannot handle the demand for
housing, jobs and schools that it will face as Mexican workers return to
their hometowns from the USA without jobs or money. The Arizona law, which
took effect Jan. 1, punishes Arizona employers who knowingly hire
individuals without valid legal documents to work in the United States .

Penalties include suspension of, or loss of, their business licenses. The
Mexican legislators are angry because their own citizens are returning to
their hometowns, placing a burden on THEIR state government.

“How can Arizona pass a law like this?' asked Mexican Rep Leticia
Amparano-Gamez, who represents Nogales .”

"There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or
relative working in Arizona ," she said, speaking in Spanish.

“ Mexico is not prepared for this--for the tremendous problems it will face
as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and who were sending money to
their families, return to their home-towns in Sonora without jobs,” she said.
"We are one family, socially and economically," she said, referring to the people of
Sonora and Arizona . Wrong!

The United States is a sovereign nation, not a subsidiary of Mexico , and
its taxpayers are not responsible for the welfare of Mexico ’s citizens. It's time for the Mexican stop feeding
govenment, and its citizens, to stop feeding parasitically off the United States and start taking care of its/
their own needs.

New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message. . .

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
3. All government business will be conducted in our language.
4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.
6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs.
Any burden will be deported.
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be restricted.
Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.
10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.


Too strict? The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO !

These sound fine to me. NOW, how can we get these laws to be America ’s
Immigration Laws?

One final issue. Polls show that over 80% of our population supports
Arizona 's new laws. Certain Businesses and States want to Boycott Arizona
because of these new laws. I say, let them do so, but lets get that 80% who
agree with Arizona to boycott those states and those businesses. Then we
will see who wins this debate.
 

Kayak Jack

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I agree. When we treat bad guys the way they treat us, they don't like it.

Why is it posted here; the Geezer Corner Cafe is for "Falling apart an the Doc had to fix it , lets us know about the repairs." type stuff.
 

BEARS BUDDY

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Never did appreciate one-way rules. Why not return the favor with those kids who replaced the U. S. flag with the Mexican flag at school? Living in Mexico until they were able to legally enter the U. S. might change their attitudes towards U. S. laws.
 

oldsparkey

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Kayak Jack said:
Why is it posted here; the Geezer Corner Cafe is for "Falling apart an the Doc had to fix it , lets us know about the repairs." type stuff.

The way I see it is that this old Gal ( The United States ) is in need of some serious help and falling apart rapidly. If that is not a terminal illness then what is ???????
 

woodman

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You know this whole issue wasn't even a problem 20-30+ yrs. ago. Least not until we Americans preferred buying junk from foreign countries and not American made. Thanks to our own government..... The blame lies in Washington and the voters nowhere else.
Then enters the South of the border issue, look into the eyes of these people. They are of Native Blood. Racism against Indians is still alive, go to South Dakota, Canada, Arizona, whereever.....
The minute we blame someone for taking advantage of the system .........what's up with that....
The blame goes back..back...back...to our voting ancestors....we vote for corruption we get what we deserve...
 

dawallace45

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Woodman , that sort of ties in with a article I just read

The United States is rapidly becoming the very first “post-industrial” nation on the globe. All great economic empires eventually become fat and lazy and squander the great wealth that their forefathers have left them, but the pace at which America is accomplishing this is absolutely amazing. It was America that was at the forefront of the industrial revolution. It was America that showed the world how to mass produce everything from automobiles to televisions to airplanes. It was the great American manufacturing base that crushed Germany and Japan in World War II. But now we are witnessing the deindustrialization of America. Tens of thousands of factories have left the United States in the past decade alone. Millions upon millions of manufacturing jobs have been lost in the same time period. The United States has become a nation that consumes everything in sight and yet produces increasingly little.

Do you know what our biggest export is today? Waste paper. Yes, trash is the number one thing that we ship out to the rest of the world as we voraciously blow our money on whatever the rest of the world wants to sell to us. The United States has become bloated and spoiled and our economy is now just a shadow of what it once was. Once upon a time America could literally outproduce the rest of the world combined. Today that is no longer true, but Americans sure do consume more than anyone else in the world. If the deindustrialization of America continues at this current pace, what possible kind of a future are we going to be leaving to our children?

Any great nation throughout history has been great at making things. So if the United States continues to allow its manufacturing base to erode at a staggering pace how in the world can the U.S. continue to consider itself to be a great nation? We have created the biggest debt bubble in the history of the world in an effort to maintain a very high standard of living, but the current state of affairs is not anywhere close to sustainable. Every single month America does into more debt and every single month America gets poorer.

So what happens when the debt bubble pops?

The deindustrialization of the United States should be a top concern for every man, woman and child in the country. But sadly, most Americans do not have any idea what is going on around them.

For people like that, take this article and print it out and hand it to them. Perhaps what they will read below will shock them badly enough to awaken them from their slumber.

The following are 19 facts about the deindustrialization of America that will blow your mind….

#1 The United States has lost approximately 42,400 factories since 2001. About 75 percent of those factories employed over 500 people when they were still in operation.

#2 Dell Inc. (DELL: 13.355 -0.535 -3.85%), one of America’s largest manufacturers of computers, has announced plans to dramatically expand its operations in China with an investment of over $100 billion over the next decade.

#3 Dell has announced that it will be closing its last large U.S. manufacturing facility in Winston-Salem, North Carolina in November. Approximately 900 jobs will be lost.

#4 In 2008, 1.2 billion cellphones were sold worldwide. So how many of them were manufactured inside the United States? Zero.

#5 According to a new study conducted by the Economic Policy Institute, if the U.S. trade deficit with China continues to increase at its current rate, the U.S. economy will lose over half a million jobs this year alone.

#6 As of the end of July, the U.S. trade deficit with China had risen 18 percent compared to the same time period a year ago.

#7 The United States has lost a total of about 5.5 million manufacturing jobs since October 2000.

#8 According to Tax Notes, between 1999 and 2008 employment at the foreign affiliates of U.S. parent companies increased an astounding 30 percent to 10.1 million. During that exact same time period, U.S. employment at American multinational corporations declined 8 percent to 21.1 million.

#9 In 1959, manufacturing represented 28 percent of U.S. economic output. In 2008, it represented 11.5 percent.

#10 Ford Motor Company (F: 16.47 -0.26 -1.55%) recently announced the closure of a factory that produces the Ford Ranger in St. Paul, Minnesota. Approximately 750 good paying middle class jobs are going to be lost because making Ford Rangers in Minnesota does not fit in with Ford’s new “global” manufacturing strategy.

#11 As of the end of 2009, less than 12 million Americans worked in manufacturing. The last time less than 12 million Americans were employed in manufacturing was in 1941.

#12 In the United States today, consumption accounts for 70 percent of GDP. Of this 70 percent, over half is spent on services.

#13 The United States has lost a whopping 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.

#14 In 2001, the United States ranked fourth in the world in per capita broadband Internet use. Today it ranks 15th.

#15 Manufacturing employment in the U.S. computer industry is actually lower in 2010 than it was in 1975.

#16 Printed circuit boards are used in tens of thousands of different products. Asia now produces 84 percent of them worldwide.

#17 The United States spends approximately $3.90 on Chinese goods for every $1 that the Chinese spend on goods from the United States.

#18 One prominent economist is projecting that the Chinese economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy by the year 2040.

#19 The U.S. Census Bureau says that 43.6 million Americans are now living in poverty and according to them that is the highest number of poor Americans in the 51 years that records have been kept.

So how many tens of thousands more factories do we need to lose before we do something about it?

How many millions more Americans are going to become unemployed before we all admit that we have a very, very serious problem on our hands?

How many more trillions of dollars are going to leave the country before we realize that we are losing wealth at a pace that is killing our economy?

How many once great manufacturing cities are going to become rotting war zones like Detroit before we understand that we are committing national economic suicide?

The deindustrialization of America is a national crisis. It needs to be treated like one.

If you disagree with this article, I have a direct challenge for you. If anyone can explain how a deindustrialized America has any kind of viable economic future, please do so below in the comments section.

America is in deep, deep trouble folks. It is time to wake up.

David
 

hairymick

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Jack & Dave,

Australia is in an identical position. While we were never a great manufacturing nation, we did cover most of our own needs. Now just about everybloodything we buy is made in China or somewhere else in Asia. Our jobs are likewise being exports in an unprecidented scale.

We too are borrowing at a frightening rate and out debt bubble will burst as surely as the US Bubble.

Our combined fearless leaders continue to make mind numbingly stupid decisions and plunge our two respective beloved countries further into the abyss. I don't pretend to know what the answer is but the problem makes me as mad as hell and I fear for my kids.
 

dawallace45

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What these multi national manufacturing companies don't seem to realise is that while they treat the USA and Australia as just consumers to buy their products and close down their factories in our countries in the end they are just cutting their own throats , as our average income drops then so does our ability to buy their crap , it's no good manufacturing all these goods in third world countries if in the end your just destroying your own markets ability to pay

Now I try to buy Australia made but it's hard , the other day I wanted to buy some jeans , couldn't find any made in Australia so I went looking for some of the American brands , all the ones I found were now made in either China or another Asian country so in the end I just went with the cheapest jeans I could find that fit me , there is no bloody way I'm going to pay $120 for a American brand made in Bangladesh when I can buy a brand from Kmart that look the same and also made in Bangladesh for $10

We needed a new DVD player some time back , wanted a Australian brand made in Australia , every where I checked was told they aren't made here , I asked about made in the USA but was told that all the USA brands for electrical goods are made in Asia as well now , was told that I could still buy a good German brand that was made in Germany but it was 15 times the price of the other brands , I asked if it would last longer than the cheaper made in Indonesia brands and was told no it would last about the same and that most of the components were made in Asia any way , I asked about quality of the playback and was told it was about the same and got a demo from the display stock so I went with the cheapest one I could find for $39 ,

I always used to make a point of buying the best quality Australian made products I could find and keeping it for a long time , now I just can't find Australian made and things aren't made to last

Some 10 years back I went to the Stockmans Hall of Fame [ SHOF ] out Longreach and decided to buy a cap , they had a sign saying " All genuine Australian made " they wanted $50 for it and it was not good quality , certainly not good enough to pay $50 for it , but the SHOF is a rip off big time so it really wasn't surprising , but we are getting ripped off all the time , I've bought good quality Baseball caps from the USA that were made in the USA and it cost me less than $20 landed here and the Quality was great , much better than any thing I could buy here and certainly better than the crappy made in china things with the logos of football clubs and cars on them

While I'm on a rant , I can't for the life of me believe the stupidity of people who pay money to advertise for some one else , I was in a shopping centre down in Brisbane last week , I was accosted by some one who had a big stall set up in the middle of the centre selling Tee shirts with logos on them , the guy grabs my arm which I don't like for a start and I had to stop my self from thumping him so I just broke his grip and went to walk on , but he says to me can I interest you in a Holden Tee shirt ? I said NO and went to walk on but he ducks in front of me again , and tells me they are on special , so I stopped and said to him " are you giving them away ? " he said " No , of course not " , I said " are you going to pay me to wear it ? " , he said " No of course not " so I said " Why the F#%k would I want to pay 4 times the price of a plain Tee Shirt just so I can give advertising space to some one else , Don't be bloody stupid " and I walked off , as I did there was a man and a woman at the counter and the man said to the woman , " When it's but that way it does seem silly paying this much for them , bugger it we don't need them " and they left the stuff on the counter and walked off , Must admit I felt quite happy about that

David
 

BEARS BUDDY

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Dave said:'While I'm on a rant , I can't for the life of me believe the stupidity of people who pay money to advertise for some one else"
I always ask if the posted price is what they are paying me to wear there advertisement. The trademark on a piece of clothing is usually inversely proportional to the size of the wearer's brain.