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My Strip Pirogue

Discussion in 'Pirogues' started by beekeeper, Feb 16, 2011.

  1. beekeeper

    beekeeper Well-Known Member

    Finished at last. :D It was fun, but with all my mistakes :cry: , I thought I would never finish. What it is, is what it is.

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    beekeeper
     
  2. islandpiper

    islandpiper Well-Known Member

    Nice to know you got 'er done. Now you can start doing the modifications. :D :D :D

    In my experience there are three things that somehow are never really DONE. A Ford PickUp, a wooden boat and a woman's wardrobe.

    piper
     
  3. Kayak Jack

    Kayak Jack Well-Known Member

    I've no experience with the first one, but can fully agree with numbers 2 and 3. sigh
     
  4. ZipSnipe

    ZipSnipe Active Member

    Looking sweet!!! Job well done!!!
     
  5. beekeeper

    beekeeper Well-Known Member

    Piper the next modification is to apply the fish slime. :wink: It may take several applications, but this is the one step I like repeating. :roll:

    ZipSnipe, thanks for the compiment. :D

    beekeeper
     
  6. tx river rat

    tx river rat Well-Known Member

    Good looking boat Bee , Have you started planning your next one yet?
    Ron
     
  7. beekeeper

    beekeeper Well-Known Member

    Thanks Ron. Always lots of plans and ideas. Picking one is the hard part. Right now my plans are to enjoy this one.

    beekeeper
     
  8. seedtick

    seedtick Well-Known Member

    your grandaughter doesn't have a boat :D
     
  9. beekeeper

    beekeeper Well-Known Member

    I was saving that reason for the "You don't need another boat, why are you building another one?" question. The grandkid answer works every time for Maw Maw bee. :roll:

    beekeeper
     
  10. Kayak Jack

    Kayak Jack Well-Known Member

    And, for every other Grandmother in Creation! Bless their hearts.
     
  11. Beesboy

    Beesboy Member

    I don't get to help much on the building process, but will be happy to assist with the slime application process. I think it should take multiple coats and is best to apply liberally and frequently as the slime coat dries quickly and rapidly degrades in UV light. Don't forget your safety gear when applying the slime coats: PFD, sun screen, insect repellent. Some users complain of a fishy smell during the application process. If the smell bothers you, wear a respirator.
     
  12. beekeeper

    beekeeper Well-Known Member

    Took the boat out for another appliction of slime. Sliming realy is the best part of boat building. Was only able to apply a light coat (two small bass). That is OK. I'll just have to go again. Paddled farther than usual just looking around the bend, and putting in some seat time. I do like the light weight of this boat, loading and unloading. The boat has a different feel than my others. Seems to glide farther, and my be easier to paddle. It rocks more as you cast, or any other movements. I can't decide if the soft chines were worth the effort. Guess I will keep going until I know.
    Six coats of varnish does not make for a slip resistant floor. It will get you nice compliments at the store.

    beekeeper
     
  13. beekeeper

    beekeeper Well-Known Member

  14. Kayak Jack

    Kayak Jack Well-Known Member

    I like the ventilated gunnels. They are strong, light weight, and easy to dump out any water when you get back on shore.
     
  15. Guillaume

    Guillaume Active Member

    I see there are no ribs on the bottom. Did you use something else to form the shape of the boat?
     
  16. beekeeper

    beekeeper Well-Known Member

    To the left of the boat is the strongback and stations with the forms used to build and shape the boat. It is strip built the same as a canoe or kayak. Hardest part was figuring the size and shape of the forms with out plans. I think when building "by hand and eye" the boat is shaped with movable jigs and then the ribs are added. Building with plans the size and shape of the ribs are known and are used to shape the boat. They act as jigs but only allow you to build to one known shape. Works ok with strip building or plywood. May not work with lumber because it may not conform to the ribs shape.

    beekeeper
     
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  17. Guillaume

    Guillaume Active Member

    I thought that is what those might be but I thought also perhaps they went to another project. Is the bottom strips also?
     
  18. beekeeper

    beekeeper Well-Known Member

    Also handy for fish stringer or anchor tie off points. I chose to "ventilate" only the middle sections and was pleased with the look. Others may need them done the whole length of the boat, but I don.t venture very far from my seat.

    Guillaume
    The floor is strips. They were 3/8" but still needed two layers, one 6 oz. and one 10 oz., of glass on the inside to stiffen it enough to not need ribs.

    beekeeper
     
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  19. Kayak Jack

    Kayak Jack Well-Known Member

    I notice you have no thwarts. When studied, a thwart's primary function is to resist the sides pulling further apart in case of a folding disaster. F'rinstance, if the boat is bridged - both ends are well supported, and the center is bridged up with no support - any weight in the center (like, say, a fisherman trying to regain ewuilibrium, but stumbles) the ends of the boat can fold upwards, bending the middle of the hull open. An extreme example, the boat would fold completely double, and the ends would be nearly touching. While that isn't ever likely to happen, hull damage would probably occur in the first 5-10 degrees of bend.

    A thwart resists the sides flexing outwards, and therefore resists hull deformation beyond the point where you hear loud cracks and pops.

    All that being said, canoes and pirogues usually have thwarts made if wood. Wood will resist stress of both compression (sides squeezing closer together) and tension (sides are stretching further apart). Situations where the sides might squeeze closer together are both highly improbable, and fairly difficult to do. Therefore, an effective thwart need only withstand tension. Therefore wood is unnecessary as a thwart. ROPE, on the other hand, is a perfect thwart. Inexpensive, lightweight, and easily installed - especially onto ventilated gunnels. I thread through three blocks on each side of the boat, and do a trucker's hitch across the center. This serves nicely.

    Frankly, you can tie it into place quicker than reading this entire post. Sorry 'bout that.
     
  20. seedtick

    seedtick Well-Known Member

    " pirogues usually have thwarts made if wood"

    dunno Jack...never seen a pirogue down here with a thwart, maybe y'all have different ones up north

    The top rails usually do a pretty good job of keeping the sides from flexing in or out
     

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