I understand that, but I'm still curious about the performance questions I asked.Light Keeper's Kid said:I would say that this boat is more a backwater skiff were speed isn't a great need,because of stumps and possable skinny water. Which high HP isn't needed,unlike just traveling to a spot with high HP and then trolling or paddling in backwater spots. Two differant types of Boats :idea:
Mike
mike said:Showing my ignorance here, but I'm curious-
Will a small motor, 3-5 HP, bring this boat up on a plane, or will it just plough through the water?
What is the expected speed?
Mike
I don't want to presume to speak for Uncle John, but from looking at the photos of the prototype build it certainly looks like he intends it to be a displacement hull, not planing, to be used like Light Keeper's Kid described. A narrow bottom aft and some rocker in that area, which it looks like it has in the photos, are desirable at slower speeds, but not for planing.Light Keeper's Kid said:I would say that this boat is more a backwater skiff were speed isn't a great need,because of stumps and possable skinny water. Which high HP isn't needed,unlike just traveling to a spot with high HP and then trolling or paddling in backwater spots. Two differant types of Boats :idea:
Joe , you and I are on the same thoughts........Paddlin'Gator said:I don't want to presume to speak for Uncle John, but from looking at the photos of the prototype build it certainly looks like he intends it to be a displacement hull, not planing, to be used like Light Keeper's Kid described. A narrow bottom aft and some rocker in that area, which it looks like it has in the photos, are desirable at slower speeds, but not for planing.Light Keeper's Kid said:I would say that this boat is more a backwater skiff were speed isn't a great need,because of stumps and possable skinny water. Which high HP isn't needed,unlike just traveling to a spot with high HP and then trolling or paddling in backwater spots. Two differant types of Boats :idea:
Uncle John and I were kicking that around , he (In a joking manner) suggested a solar panel on the front deck to charge the battery for the trolling motor. Makes seance to me but most of my time on the water it is overcast or raining for some reason. :wink:mike said:If I wanted to get there fast I'd own a speed boat instead of a canoe. If I were to build one of these it would get an electric, so still no speed. The performance questions are just a matter of curiosity with me.
Yep,we are thinking alike on that, Chuck. The skiff, at 100 pounds or less, could easily be rolled from your vehicle to the water by one person with nothing more than a canoe dolly or something similar - no ramp needed. The four stroke engines are clean and quiet, but since I already have a 4 hp two stroke, it will have to do for now. My only concern about the skiff is when just one person is doing a day trip, sitting in the back to run the outboard and with only some fishing gear, that it may trim down a lot in the stern/up in the bow.oldsparkey said:Darn... It is just something to get up stream with , without paddling when I go camping/fishing by myself or one other person. Guess I need to forget pulling water skiers. :lol: :lol:
oldsparkey said:Get rid of the rocker , have a flat bottom and you can zip along like these folks do. Just plans for it , no kits are available and yes when or if you take a look they are all wood boats.
Another way of saying "choose a design that is right for the kind of performance you want from your boat." I'm with you ,Chuck. The skiff, or that type of design, is well suited to the kind of use I would see for it - moderate speed, the ability to get into the backwaters, easily transported and launched.oldsparkey said:The Skiff reminds me of the very 1st boat I ever had , way back there in the dark ages and what a boat it was.
:lol: I ended up with a Martin 7 1/2 on mine back then , that was some motor. It could do something none of them can do today.Paddlin'Gator said:When I was about 11 or 12 we bought a very similar boat, maybe a little wider bottom at the stern. We ran a six hp motor on it which was more than enough. That boat made a lot of trips up and down the Ocklawaha before the Rodman dam was put in. It was perfect for that kind of use.
Joe
oldsparkey said::lol: I ended up with a Martin 7 1/2 on mine back then , that was some motor.
My motor was an Elgin (sold by Sears Roebuck) and it weighed about as much as a present day 10 or 15 hp. It was always cranky as hell to start, but it was what I had. Later, when I was about 16, I bought a Speedliner with an Evinrude SpeedTwin opposed piston outboard and a homemade trailer for $100. Totally opposite kind of boat from the skiff.oldsparkey said:Dad had a 20 hp Martin on his boat and I always wondered what it would do one my little boat. Dads boat was a long nosed , decked over , all wood , Swift , if anyone remembers them from the 50's.